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		<title>By: Dmitry Burov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dmitry Burov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2006 21:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I still ask to cover this greate intro with some of the Common Creatives licenses.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That would alllow putting this text to Wiki and cooperative translation of it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It would greately simplify upating of translation when original text would be updated.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;((TjL adds: If someone wants to translate it, I&#039;ll be happy to host it here as I&#039;ve done with previous versions))&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still ask to cover this greate intro with some of the Common Creatives licenses.</p>

<p>That would alllow putting this text to Wiki and cooperative translation of it.</p>

<p>It would greately simplify upating of translation when original text would be updated.</p>

<p>((TjL adds: If someone wants to translate it, I&#8217;ll be happy to host it here as I&#8217;ve done with previous versions))</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Arioch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arioch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Could You, pleaze, cover this text with some license like Common Creatives ?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Russian translation is frozen at 7.09 version. The person who did it is very busy.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Putting this text onto Wiki could make updates much more easier! Every updated text can be pasted as-is and part-by-part translated with small pieces.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This text is much needed to evangelize Opera, and it is pity that it is not available in russian up to date :(&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thank You.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;{{ TjL writes - I have not had a chance to investigate CC enough to know which license would be appropriate.  I do not have access to a Wiki nor time to learn how to set one up at the moment. }}&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could You, pleaze, cover this text with some license like Common Creatives ?</p>

<p>Russian translation is frozen at 7.09 version. The person who did it is very busy.</p>

<p>Putting this text onto Wiki could make updates much more easier! Every updated text can be pasted as-is and part-by-part translated with small pieces.</p>

<p>This text is much needed to evangelize Opera, and it is pity that it is not available in russian up to date :(</p>

<p>Thank You.</p>

<p>{{ TjL writes - I have not had a chance to investigate CC enough to know which license would be appropriate.  I do not have access to a Wiki nor time to learn how to set one up at the moment. }}</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Edward Welbourne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward Welbourne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2005 13:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://operalover.tntluoma.com/8/day_1_general_preferences&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://operalover.tntluoma.com/8/day&lt;em&gt;1&lt;/em&gt;general_preferences&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt; Start with no pages:



&lt;blockquote&gt; It also won&#039;t let other programs reset your homepage to some nasty site (and by nasty, I mean, well, you know exactly waht I mean). &lt;/blockquote&gt;

typo: waht &#8594; what (last word but two).



&lt;blockquote&gt; Let&#039;s just say some other browser won&#039;t respect your home page. &lt;/blockquote&gt;



hmm ... my impression was that, when they said &quot;my computer&quot; they meant it (it&#039;s not &quot;your computer&quot;, it&#039;s theirs) ... and when they say &quot;home page&quot; they mean &quot;the page set up for you by the parties to whom we&#039;ve sold the right to charge advertisers for access to your eye-balls&quot;.  They just don&#039;t like to say those things out loud ...



&lt;p&gt; Re: Richard Grevers&#039; description of  &quot;Show close button on every tab&quot; - I&#039;d not noticed that option; and agree with (1) so exercised it; it did (1) but I see no evidence of (2) and (3).  Maybe that&#039;s just something that got fixed in 8.01 ...

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<p> Start with no pages:



<blockquote> It also won&#8217;t let other programs reset your homepage to some nasty site (and by nasty, I mean, well, you know exactly waht I mean). </blockquote>

typo: waht &rarr; what (last word but two).



<blockquote> Let&#8217;s just say some other browser won&#8217;t respect your home page. </blockquote>



hmm &#8230; my impression was that, when they said &#8220;my computer&#8221; they meant it (it&#8217;s not &#8220;your computer&#8221;, it&#8217;s theirs) &#8230; and when they say &#8220;home page&#8221; they mean &#8220;the page set up for you by the parties to whom we&#8217;ve sold the right to charge advertisers for access to your eye-balls&#8221;.  They just don&#8217;t like to say those things out loud &#8230;



</p><p> Re: Richard Grevers&#8217; description of  &#8220;Show close button on every tab&#8221; - I&#8217;d not noticed that option; and agree with (1) so exercised it; it did (1) but I see no evidence of (2) and (3).  Maybe that&#8217;s just something that got fixed in 8.01 &#8230;

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		<title>By: wessonruger</title>
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		<dc:creator>wessonruger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2005 02:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The WINDOW is the entire application of Opera.  You can have multiple instances of Opera running at the same time.  (i.e. multiple WINDOWS).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The PAGE is what you are viewing on your screen when you have a web page open.  If you have multiple pages open, only the active page is viewable.  The others lie underneath like sheets of paper.  (Unless you have the tile or cascade view enabled, then all of the pages will be shown on the screen.  However, only one will be active, and you can change the active page by clicking within the bounds of that page or on the TAB for it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The TABS are the rectangular button located at the (top or bottom, left or right depending on where you place them), that once clicked, brings that page to the front in active status.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;The WINDOW is the application, the PAGE is what you are viewing, and the TAB provides a quick link to perform operations on that page.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The WINDOW is the entire application of Opera.  You can have multiple instances of Opera running at the same time.  (i.e. multiple WINDOWS).</p>

<p>The PAGE is what you are viewing on your screen when you have a web page open.  If you have multiple pages open, only the active page is viewable.  The others lie underneath like sheets of paper.  (Unless you have the tile or cascade view enabled, then all of the pages will be shown on the screen.  However, only one will be active, and you can change the active page by clicking within the bounds of that page or on the TAB for it.</p>

<p>The TABS are the rectangular button located at the (top or bottom, left or right depending on where you place them), that once clicked, brings that page to the front in active status.</p>

<p>&#8220;The WINDOW is the application, the PAGE is what you are viewing, and the TAB provides a quick link to perform operations on that page.&#8221;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Peter Van Tine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Van Tine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 06:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I believe Steve has it.  Especially since you can move the &quot;Tabs&quot; on the Page Bar around without effecting the &quot;Pages&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also, if you decide to close the Page Bar under the Toolbars tab in the Appearance dialogue box, the Pages then resemble minimized (until you maximize them again) files inside a standard MicroSoft application, e.g. Excel.  Unfortunately if you do this with the Open Pages in Tabs box unchecked under the General tab in the Preferences dialogue box, there is no Windows menu available (not sure on the logic here).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Steve has it.  Especially since you can move the &#8220;Tabs&#8221; on the Page Bar around without effecting the &#8220;Pages&#8221;.</p>

<p>Also, if you decide to close the Page Bar under the Toolbars tab in the Appearance dialogue box, the Pages then resemble minimized (until you maximize them again) files inside a standard MicroSoft application, e.g. Excel.  Unfortunately if you do this with the Open Pages in Tabs box unchecked under the General tab in the Preferences dialogue box, there is no Windows menu available (not sure on the logic here).</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Steve Haney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Haney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2005 01:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think dlambe&#039;s analogy above works, but with further explanation.  And hopefully this will explain the difference between TABs and PAGEs (as I see it).  ;)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Starting with windows, lets say you have only two applications running:  Word and Excel, and both programs are available on your desktop.  In your taskbar you have two &quot;Taskbar Buttons&quot;, as Windows calls them.  If you click on the Word &quot;Taskbar Button&quot;, the Word program is now in front of the Excel program.  If you click on the Excel &quot;Taskbar Button&quot;, you see Excel in front.  So the &quot;Taskbar Button&quot; (let&#039;s just call it a &quot;TaB&quot;) is clicked on to bring that program in front of the rest.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To complete the analogy, clicking on the TAB in the Opera window brings that PAGE to the front, on top of the others.  The Opera TAB for the Opera PAGE acts like the Windows &quot;Taskbar Button&quot; (&quot;TaB&quot;) for the Windows program.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The TAB is the &quot;button&quot; that brings the PAGE to the front. (It also sends it to the back, but I don&#039;t want to make this TOO complicated.)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think dlambe&#8217;s analogy above works, but with further explanation.  And hopefully this will explain the difference between TABs and PAGEs (as I see it).  ;)</p>

<p>Starting with windows, lets say you have only two applications running:  Word and Excel, and both programs are available on your desktop.  In your taskbar you have two &#8220;Taskbar Buttons&#8221;, as Windows calls them.  If you click on the Word &#8220;Taskbar Button&#8221;, the Word program is now in front of the Excel program.  If you click on the Excel &#8220;Taskbar Button&#8221;, you see Excel in front.  So the &#8220;Taskbar Button&#8221; (let&#8217;s just call it a &#8220;TaB&#8221;) is clicked on to bring that program in front of the rest.</p>

<p>To complete the analogy, clicking on the TAB in the Opera window brings that PAGE to the front, on top of the others.  The Opera TAB for the Opera PAGE acts like the Windows &#8220;Taskbar Button&#8221; (&#8220;TaB&#8221;) for the Windows program.</p>

<p>The TAB is the &#8220;button&#8221; that brings the PAGE to the front. (It also sends it to the back, but I don&#8217;t want to make this TOO complicated.)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: dlambe</title>
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		<dc:creator>dlambe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;al dasman:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d think of it this way.. think of a Window as a container for pages/tabs. You can have mulitiple windows, each having it&#039;s own set of tabs/pages within. Close one window with a bunch of tabs? The other open windows remain untouched, as do their contained pabs/tages.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Tabs and pages are the same thing, if my obvious reciprocating wasn&#039;t clear. :)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you&#039;ve &lt;em&gt;never&lt;/em&gt; used a tabbed browser before, I&#039;d first say shame on you, and then try the Microsoft Windows analogy.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Tabs and windows in Opera are &lt;strong&gt;analogous&lt;/strong&gt; to open applications and the Taskbar in Microsoft Windows. The open applications are the &quot;tabs/pages&quot;, and Windows itself is the containing window which allows you to swap through those &quot;pages/tabs&quot; of applications. In Opera, the only real difference is that instead of swapping through multiple applications, you&#039;re swapping through web pages.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Best I got, hope it helps. :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>al dasman:</p>

<p>I&#8217;d think of it this way.. think of a Window as a container for pages/tabs. You can have mulitiple windows, each having it&#8217;s own set of tabs/pages within. Close one window with a bunch of tabs? The other open windows remain untouched, as do their contained pabs/tages.</p>

<p>Tabs and pages are the same thing, if my obvious reciprocating wasn&#8217;t clear. :)</p>

<p>If you&#8217;ve <em>never</em> used a tabbed browser before, I&#8217;d first say shame on you, and then try the Microsoft Windows analogy.</p>

<p>Tabs and windows in Opera are <strong>analogous</strong> to open applications and the Taskbar in Microsoft Windows. The open applications are the &#8220;tabs/pages&#8221;, and Windows itself is the containing window which allows you to swap through those &#8220;pages/tabs&#8221; of applications. In Opera, the only real difference is that instead of swapping through multiple applications, you&#8217;re swapping through web pages.</p>

<p>Best I got, hope it helps. :)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: TjL (tntluoma.com)</title>
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		<dc:creator>TjL (tntluoma.com)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2005 05:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Al - sorry to have confused you.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Some of the terminology confusion comes from Opera ASA.  I wish they had avoided talking about tabs at all, and I wish they had made the traditional SDI and MDI distinction clearer.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m completely open to suggestions on how to make it more clear.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I still think the easiest way to understand it is to think of Tabs and Pages as being two ways of saying the same thing, and think of Windows as containing 1 or more Tabs.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al - sorry to have confused you.</p>

<p>Some of the terminology confusion comes from Opera ASA.  I wish they had avoided talking about tabs at all, and I wish they had made the traditional SDI and MDI distinction clearer.</p>

<p>I&#8217;m completely open to suggestions on how to make it more clear.</p>

<p>I still think the easiest way to understand it is to think of Tabs and Pages as being two ways of saying the same thing, and think of Windows as containing 1 or more Tabs.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: al dasman</title>
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		<dc:creator>al dasman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2005 04:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I find it very difficult to understand the above. And I&#039;m an Opera user - you have thoroughly confused me on Window and Tab  and Page. To beat all, after you open pages in a window, or in a tab, - the &quot;open pages in tabs&quot; control is total gobbledeygook..&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It would be better to define your terms first - then apply them.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It was a waste of time for Opera to come out with version 8 if they will not make it intelligible.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it very difficult to understand the above. And I&#8217;m an Opera user - you have thoroughly confused me on Window and Tab  and Page. To beat all, after you open pages in a window, or in a tab, - the &#8220;open pages in tabs&#8221; control is total gobbledeygook..</p>

<p>It would be better to define your terms first - then apply them.</p>

<p>It was a waste of time for Opera to come out with version 8 if they will not make it intelligible.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Richard Grevers</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2005 04:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To clarify further, that &quot;Show close button on every tab&quot; checkbox has multiple effects.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ol&gt;

&lt;li&gt; The horrible close buttons go away*&lt;/li&gt;



&lt;li&gt; The Windows MDI controls come back (top right corner, the minimize, restore/maximize and close buttons - immediately below the set for Opera itself. I find that I use these if my mouse is near the top of the screen and the pagebar if the mouse is lower down.&lt;/li&gt;



&lt;li&gt; The Windows menu reappears. (I don&#039;t really understand the logic for it disappearing.&lt;/li&gt;

&lt;/ol&gt;

&lt;p&gt;

*Tip: One of the best means of closing pages is to shift-click the tab (hold either shift-key while left-clicking the page&#039;s tab. It needs two hands which makes it almost impossible to perform accidentally, and the target area for the click is much larger. Plus more space on tab=better chance of understanding what&#039;s there.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To clarify further, that &#8220;Show close button on every tab&#8221; checkbox has multiple effects.</p>

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<li> The horrible close buttons go away*</li>



<li> The Windows MDI controls come back (top right corner, the minimize, restore/maximize and close buttons - immediately below the set for Opera itself. I find that I use these if my mouse is near the top of the screen and the pagebar if the mouse is lower down.</li>



<li> The Windows menu reappears. (I don&#8217;t really understand the logic for it disappearing.</li>

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<p>

*Tip: One of the best means of closing pages is to shift-click the tab (hold either shift-key while left-clicking the page&#8217;s tab. It needs two hands which makes it almost impossible to perform accidentally, and the target area for the click is much larger. Plus more space on tab=better chance of understanding what&#8217;s there.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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