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		<title>By: TjL (tntluoma.com)</title>
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		<dc:creator>TjL (tntluoma.com)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 14:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Triplezone:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Opera and FastForward are working just fine.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What has happened is that you are seeing that there were posts made to the website in-between days of the series.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The post made after this one was Google Sidebars (you can see that below)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As for how to properly markup a page, see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=608&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=608&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=608&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt; but the best way is to use the proper HTML markup for &quot;next&quot; as shown here:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;link rel=&quot;next&quot; href=&quot;http://operalover.tntluoma.com/sidebars/google_sidebars/&quot; title=&quot;Google Sidebars&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Note the &#039;rel=&quot;next&quot;&#039; part.  If you View Source on this page you will see that.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If that is not found, Opera scans the page and tries to guess.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If your page uses a graphical arrow for &quot;Next&quot; without proper markup, it probably won&#039;t work.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I hope that helps.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Triplezone:</p>

<p>Opera and FastForward are working just fine.</p>

<p>What has happened is that you are seeing that there were posts made to the website in-between days of the series.</p>

<p>The post made after this one was Google Sidebars (you can see that below)</p>

<p>As for how to properly markup a page, see <a href="http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=608" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=608" rel="nofollow">http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=608</a> but the best way is to use the proper HTML markup for &#8220;next&#8221; as shown here:</p>

<p>&lt;link rel=&#8221;next&#8221; href=&#8221;http://operalover.tntluoma.com/sidebars/google_sidebars/&#8221; title=&#8221;Google Sidebars&#8221; /></p>

<p>Note the &#8216;rel=&#8221;next&#8221;&#8217; part.  If you View Source on this page you will see that.</p>

<p>If that is not found, Opera scans the page and tries to guess.</p>

<p>If your page uses a graphical arrow for &#8220;Next&#8221; without proper markup, it probably won&#8217;t work.</p>

<p>I hope that helps.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Triplezone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Triplezone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Fast Forward&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On properly marked up pages, Opera can try to guess what the next page would be. If enabled, this button will bring you to the next page in a series&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It doesn&#039;t always work! For example, if I click fast forward on this page, it won&#039;t go to the next day which is where I expect it to go.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What is properly marked up pages? How could I design a site so that fast-forward goes where I want it to?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Fast Forward</p>

<p>On properly marked up pages, Opera can try to guess what the next page would be. If enabled, this button will bring you to the next page in a series&#8221;</p>

<p>It doesn&#8217;t always work! For example, if I click fast forward on this page, it won&#8217;t go to the next day which is where I expect it to go.</p>

<p>What is properly marked up pages? How could I design a site so that fast-forward goes where I want it to?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: kirin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 23:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Let&#039;s see if I can help someone :)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;STnp: The IE6 look-and-feel??? That&#039;s odd :P Anyway, try this: &lt;a href=&quot;http://portal.opera.com/startup/customize/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://portal.opera.com/startup/customize/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://portal.opera.com/startup/customize/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;wally: An easy way is to use the personal bar (empty) and drag the bookmarks. If you want another bar (if you use the personal bar for something else) you&#039;ll have to edit the toolbar .ini file, where you must create a new toolbar (not really for beginners, but not that difficult). Maybe the best way is to use some .ini files that someone else made. Try a search on &quot;opera toolbars&quot; or something...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Marty Graw: I don&#039;t think there&#039;s an easy way to do that. Anyway, take a look at this page: &lt;a href=&quot;http://djvulibre.djvuzone.org/doc/man/nsdejavu.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://djvulibre.djvuzone.org/doc/man/nsdejavu.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://djvulibre.djvuzone.org/doc/man/nsdejavu.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see if I can help someone :)</p>

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<p>STnp: The IE6 look-and-feel??? That&#8217;s odd :P Anyway, try this: <a href="http://portal.opera.com/startup/customize/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://portal.opera.com/startup/customize/" rel="nofollow">http://portal.opera.com/startup/customize/</a></p>

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<p>wally: An easy way is to use the personal bar (empty) and drag the bookmarks. If you want another bar (if you use the personal bar for something else) you&#8217;ll have to edit the toolbar .ini file, where you must create a new toolbar (not really for beginners, but not that difficult). Maybe the best way is to use some .ini files that someone else made. Try a search on &#8220;opera toolbars&#8221; or something&#8230;</p>

<p><br /><br /></p>

<p>Marty Graw: I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s an easy way to do that. Anyway, take a look at this page: <a href="http://djvulibre.djvuzone.org/doc/man/nsdejavu.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://djvulibre.djvuzone.org/doc/man/nsdejavu.html" rel="nofollow">http://djvulibre.djvuzone.org/doc/man/nsdejavu.html</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Marty Graw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marty Graw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2005 13:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is there any way to activate an autohide feature for the tool bars? I know F11 will switch to full screen mode but I would like to control it with the positioning of the curser as with the Windows autohide feature.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any way to activate an autohide feature for the tool bars? I know F11 will switch to full screen mode but I would like to control it with the positioning of the curser as with the Windows autohide feature.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: wally</title>
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		<dc:creator>wally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2005 06:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;is there a way to add an additional bar with &quot;favourites&quot;? thanks.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is there a way to add an additional bar with &#8220;favourites&#8221;? thanks.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: STnp</title>
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		<dc:creator>STnp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2005 00:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As for next time, could you please show how to combine different toolbars in a similar way as in Internet Explorer 6, that is, two different bars on a same &#039;line&#039;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I my IE, below the title bar, I have a following setup:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Line 1:  Menu Bar + Address Bar&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Line 2: Standard buttons bar + Links bar&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I haven&#039;t yet figured out, how it can be done in Opera 8. Better yet, I would be grateful if someone could create a theme that would reproduce looks, feel and behaviour of IE 6. So far, I have only found loads of &#039;cutesy&#039; and &#039;master-blaster-graphics-maniac&#039; themes, all uninteresting to ones, who like more Windows 95/NT4/2000 plain interface. This skin-theme thing has really aberrated useability, and that is where IE still has currently upper hand compared to Opera - in my opinion.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for next time, could you please show how to combine different toolbars in a similar way as in Internet Explorer 6, that is, two different bars on a same &#8216;line&#8217;.</p>

<p><br /></p>

<p>I my IE, below the title bar, I have a following setup:<br /></p>

<p><br /></p>

<p>Line 1:  Menu Bar + Address Bar<br /></p>

<p>Line 2: Standard buttons bar + Links bar<br /></p>

<p><br /></p>

<p>I haven&#8217;t yet figured out, how it can be done in Opera 8. Better yet, I would be grateful if someone could create a theme that would reproduce looks, feel and behaviour of IE 6. So far, I have only found loads of &#8216;cutesy&#8217; and &#8216;master-blaster-graphics-maniac&#8217; themes, all uninteresting to ones, who like more Windows 95/NT4/2000 plain interface. This skin-theme thing has really aberrated useability, and that is where IE still has currently upper hand compared to Opera - in my opinion.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2005 07:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;7.23 gave more width by combining the selectors for such things as bookmarks with the bookmarks.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Width is the most precious space since scrolling up down is easier than left/right.  With O8 I am now using left/right a lot more -- a REAL PAIN.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So is there a way to get 7.23 functionality on this item. i.e. I want to move the Bookmarks, Transfers, History, etc buttons to a horizontal place, like above the bookmarks area.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>7.23 gave more width by combining the selectors for such things as bookmarks with the bookmarks.</p>

<p>Width is the most precious space since scrolling up down is easier than left/right.  With O8 I am now using left/right a lot more &#8212; a REAL PAIN.</p>

<p>So is there a way to get 7.23 functionality on this item. i.e. I want to move the Bookmarks, Transfers, History, etc buttons to a horizontal place, like above the bookmarks area.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David Dollman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Dollman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2005 06:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;adding different search engines:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;opera 7,2 (?) i think allowed me to use all the web as my preferred search with , now its google , how do i change that&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;thanks David&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;{{TjL writes: simple... just follow the directions I&#039;ve already mentioned... change the first search engine URL to be something like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.alltheweb.com/search?q=%s}}&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.alltheweb.com/search?q=%s}}&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>adding different search engines:</p>

<p>opera 7,2 (?) i think allowed me to use all the web as my preferred search with , now its google , how do i change that</p>

<p>thanks David</p>

<p>{{TjL writes: simple&#8230; just follow the directions I&#8217;ve already mentioned&#8230; change the first search engine URL to be something like <a href="http://www.alltheweb.com/search?q=%s}}" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.alltheweb.com/search?q=%s" rel="nofollow">http://www.alltheweb.com/search?q=%s</a>}}</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: pEeDy</title>
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		<dc:creator>pEeDy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2005 20:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@TjL: Fine piece of writing mate :) I&#039;m just missing the Personal Bar, or are you going to talk about that in Surgery 101?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(Note: I didn&#039;t write this day, as noted in the article.  Personal Bar will be discussed later, yes -- TjL)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TjL: Fine piece of writing mate :) I&#8217;m just missing the Personal Bar, or are you going to talk about that in Surgery 101?</p>

<p>(Note: I didn&#8217;t write this day, as noted in the article.  Personal Bar will be discussed later, yes &#8212; TjL)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: t_matze</title>
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		<dc:creator>t_matze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;One bug is that the bar doesn&#039;t seem to respect shift-clicking or the &quot;resuse existing page&quot; setting - the stylesheet always replaces its parent page.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Whenever I want to see the stylesheet of a page, I follow the hint from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.literarymoose.info/opera/logg/item/stylesheet-management-backtick-mania&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LiteraryMoose&lt;/a&gt;, who proposed the following mouse gesture for this task:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;GestureRight, GestureDown &#124; Duplicate page &amp; Go to link element, &quot;stylesheet&quot; &amp; Switch to previous page&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This works perfectly fine for me, the original page is still there.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>One bug is that the bar doesn&#8217;t seem to respect shift-clicking or the &#8220;resuse existing page&#8221; setting - the stylesheet always replaces its parent page.</blockquote>

<p>Whenever I want to see the stylesheet of a page, I follow the hint from <a href="http://www.literarymoose.info/opera/logg/item/stylesheet-management-backtick-mania" rel="nofollow">LiteraryMoose</a>, who proposed the following mouse gesture for this task:</p>

<p>GestureRight, GestureDown | Duplicate page &amp; Go to link element, &#8220;stylesheet&#8221; &amp; Switch to previous page</p>

<p>This works perfectly fine for me, the original page is still there.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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