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		<title>By: jmd2121</title>
		<link>http://tntluoma.com/30days/day-9-uaini/comment-page-1/#comment-142</link>
		<dc:creator>jmd2121</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 05:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;opera has to catch up with the times.  firefox now allows arbitrary userid strings.  it&#039;s turning into an issue now as many websites are allowing significant content differences based on user agent string.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;((TjL adds: What sites?  I&#039;d like to know what sites are really blocking Internet Explorer))&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For example, I&#039;d like to have Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.google.com/bot.html) on my list of available user agent strings as many sites allow unfettered access to googlebot.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d also rather stay with opera than use firefox&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;((TjL adds: Just because I&#039;d like unfettered access to your checking account, does that mean I should get it?))&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>opera has to catch up with the times.  firefox now allows arbitrary userid strings.  it&#8217;s turning into an issue now as many websites are allowing significant content differences based on user agent string.</p>

<p>((TjL adds: What sites?  I&#8217;d like to know what sites are really blocking Internet Explorer))</p>

<p>For example, I&#8217;d like to have Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.google.com/bot.html) on my list of available user agent strings as many sites allow unfettered access to googlebot.</p>

<p>I&#8217;d also rather stay with opera than use firefox</p>

<p>((TjL adds: Just because I&#8217;d like unfettered access to your checking account, does that mean I should get it?))</p>
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		<title>By: TjL (tntluoma.com)</title>
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		<dc:creator>TjL (tntluoma.com)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 22:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Source: &lt;a href=&quot;http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/w90p1.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/w90p1.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/w90p1.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Changed default UserAgent string to identify as Opera.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Source: <a href="http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/w90p1.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/w90p1.html" rel="nofollow">http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/w90p1.html</a></p>

<p>&#8220;Changed default UserAgent string to identify as Opera.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bernd Matzner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernd Matzner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 22:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The stupid thing is that because of Opera identifying itself as IE it totally messes up web statistics. I think a reason why Opera to this day isn&#039;t taken seriously is that it ranks so low in web stats. Why bother taking 0.8% of the user agents into account when testing pages? I think today - with lots more standards-compliant websites around, it might be a good move to change that setting so it identifies itself as Opera by default.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The stupid thing is that because of Opera identifying itself as IE it totally messes up web statistics. I think a reason why Opera to this day isn&#8217;t taken seriously is that it ranks so low in web stats. Why bother taking 0.8% of the user agents into account when testing pages? I think today - with lots more standards-compliant websites around, it might be a good move to change that setting so it identifies itself as Opera by default.</p>
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		<title>By: Filbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Filbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2005 09:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a&gt;This userjs script&lt;/a&gt; attempts to masquerade &quot;completely&quot;.  It should work for many sites which aren&#039;t fooled by Opera&#039;s standard ua.ini choices.  It still won&#039;t help sites which use browser and JS features which are absent in Opera.  A few sites may use object detection of those features, so they&#039;ll still detect and reject Opera.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Bela attempts to masquerade &quot;completely&quot;.  It should work for many sites which aren&#039;t fooled by Opera&#039;s standard ua.ini choices.  It still won&#039;t help sites which use browser and JS features which are absent in Opera.  A few sites may use object detection of those features, so they&#039;ll still detect and reject Opera.&lt;/p&gt;
  
  &lt;p&gt;Bela&lt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a>This userjs script</a> attempts to masquerade &#8220;completely&#8221;.  It should work for many sites which aren&#8217;t fooled by Opera&#8217;s standard ua.ini choices.  It still won&#8217;t help sites which use browser and JS features which are absent in Opera.  A few sites may use object detection of those features, so they&#8217;ll still detect and reject Opera.</p>

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  <p>Bela attempts to masquerade &#8220;completely&#8221;.  It should work for many sites which aren&#8217;t fooled by Opera&#8217;s standard ua.ini choices.  It still won&#8217;t help sites which use browser and JS features which are absent in Opera.  A few sites may use object detection of those features, so they&#8217;ll still detect and reject Opera.</p>
  
  <p>Bela&lt;</p>
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		<title>By: Alvin Brinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alvin Brinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2005 20:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is useless for sites that identify the browser through JavaScript.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Why hasn&#039;t Opera come around and made an option to masquerade &lt;em&gt;completely&lt;/em&gt;?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Until they do, any site that uses JavaScript to detect, such as the DSL portal at &lt;a href=&quot;http://dsl.sbc.yahoo.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://dsl.sbc.yahoo.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://dsl.sbc.yahoo.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt; will fail to work no matter what.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;See Here:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/remark,14402348~mode=full~days=9999~start=20&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/remark,14402348~mode=full~days=9999~start=20&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/remark,14402348~mode=full~days=9999~start=20&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is useless for sites that identify the browser through JavaScript.</p>

<p>Why hasn&#8217;t Opera come around and made an option to masquerade <em>completely</em>?</p>

<p>Until they do, any site that uses JavaScript to detect, such as the DSL portal at <a href="http://dsl.sbc.yahoo.com/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://dsl.sbc.yahoo.com/" rel="nofollow">http://dsl.sbc.yahoo.com/</a> will fail to work no matter what.</p>

<p>See Here:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/remark,14402348~mode=full~days=9999~start=20" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/remark,14402348~mode=full~days=9999~start=20" rel="nofollow">http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/remark,14402348~mode=full~days=9999~start=20</a></p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I didn&#039;t get what Stuarts Problem was.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Having an Button for changing the UA-String is no Problem:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;press &quot;Shift+F12&quot; go to &quot;Buttons&quot;, and then you have 2 possibilities: a Dropdown-Field, found under &quot;Preferences&quot; and an &quot;Identify as&quot;-Field found under &quot;Status&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Dropdown-Field lets you select the UA directly, the &quot;Status&quot;-Field changes with every click (i prefer that one, because it fits better into my opery-skin).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That is sufficient for most of the Websites (until now i found only gettyimages.com which still told me to get another browser)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately the UA-Strings 4 und 5 (Mozilla/IE without any mention of Opera) aren&#039;t accessible through the userinterface, and i don&#039;t now if there is any possibility of changing this.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Martin, with gettyimages.com now working fine after ua.ini-tuning&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t get what Stuarts Problem was.</p>

<p>Having an Button for changing the UA-String is no Problem:</p>

<p>press &#8220;Shift+F12&#8221; go to &#8220;Buttons&#8221;, and then you have 2 possibilities: a Dropdown-Field, found under &#8220;Preferences&#8221; and an &#8220;Identify as&#8221;-Field found under &#8220;Status&#8221;.</p>

<p>The Dropdown-Field lets you select the UA directly, the &#8220;Status&#8221;-Field changes with every click (i prefer that one, because it fits better into my opery-skin).</p>

<p>That is sufficient for most of the Websites (until now i found only gettyimages.com which still told me to get another browser)</p>

<p>Unfortunately the UA-Strings 4 und 5 (Mozilla/IE without any mention of Opera) aren&#8217;t accessible through the userinterface, and i don&#8217;t now if there is any possibility of changing this.</p>

<p>Martin, with gettyimages.com now working fine after ua.ini-tuning</p>
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		<title>By: Ruari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2005 10:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;0 = Still under the control of F12 or Tools/Preferences/Advanced/Network&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1 = Overrides F12 &amp; TPAN and sends: Opera/8.02 (Windows NT 5.0; U; en)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2 = Overrides F12 &amp; TPAN and sends: Mozilla/4.78 (Windows NT 5.0; U; en) Opera 8.02&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3 = Overrides F12 &amp; TPAN and sends: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; en) Opera 8.02&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4 = Overrides F12 &amp; TPAN and sends: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.0; U; en; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041110&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5 = Overrides F12 &amp; TPAN and sends: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; en)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;--

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>0 = Still under the control of F12 or Tools/Preferences/Advanced/Network</p>

<p><br />1 = Overrides F12 &amp; TPAN and sends: Opera/8.02 (Windows NT 5.0; U; en)</p>

<p><br />2 = Overrides F12 &amp; TPAN and sends: Mozilla/4.78 (Windows NT 5.0; U; en) Opera 8.02</p>

<p><br />3 = Overrides F12 &amp; TPAN and sends: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; en) Opera 8.02</p>

<p><br />4 = Overrides F12 &amp; TPAN and sends: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.0; U; en; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041110</p>

<p><br />5 = Overrides F12 &amp; TPAN and sends: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; en)</p>

<p>&#8212;

<br />The email address this message was posted from is valid but will expire. If you want to contact me several days after my posting you can find a contact email address on <a href="http://ruari.com/" rel="nofollow">http://ruari.com/</a>

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		<title>By: TjL (tntluoma.com)</title>
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		<dc:creator>TjL (tntluoma.com)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2005 06:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jack - see &lt;a href=&quot;http://nontroppo.org/wiki/ImprovedCompatibility&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://nontroppo.org/wiki/ImprovedCompatibility&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://nontroppo.org/wiki/ImprovedCompatibility&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack - see <a href="http://nontroppo.org/wiki/ImprovedCompatibility" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://nontroppo.org/wiki/ImprovedCompatibility" rel="nofollow">http://nontroppo.org/wiki/ImprovedCompatibility</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2005 22:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just checked my ua.ini file.  I have the line:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;www.sony.com=0&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What brower does &quot;0&quot; represent?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just checked my ua.ini file.  I have the line:</p>

<p>&#8220;www.sony.com=0&#8221;</p>

<p>What brower does &#8220;0&#8221; represent?</p>
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		<title>By: TjL (tntluoma.com)</title>
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		<dc:creator>TjL (tntluoma.com)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2005 02:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Stuart - that&#039;s a great idea.  I wish there was a way to do that, if for no other reason than to see if the site would work better with a spoofed UA.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately there&#039;s no way to do that (at least none that I am aware of).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuart - that&#8217;s a great idea.  I wish there was a way to do that, if for no other reason than to see if the site would work better with a spoofed UA.</p>

<p>Unfortunately there&#8217;s no way to do that (at least none that I am aware of).</p>
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