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		<title>By: devian</title>
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		<dc:creator>devian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nice post. I found this one also http://igreatminds.blogspot.com/2009/07/single-network-setup-time-capsule-and.html , and works for me coz i&#039;m just new to this apple thing. and thanks for this article it helps me a lot. keep it up.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post. I found this one also <a href="http://igreatminds.blogspot.com/2009/07/single-network-setup-time-capsule-and.html" rel="nofollow">http://igreatminds.blogspot.com/2009/07/single-network-setup-time-capsule-and.html</a> , and works for me coz i&#8217;m just new to this apple thing. and thanks for this article it helps me a lot. keep it up.</p>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the post -- really helpful. FWIW, this setup also works with an AirPort Extreme G (one of the later UFO-style base stations) connected to the modem, and with an AirPort Express N connected to the G&#039;s LAN port.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the post &#8212; really helpful. FWIW, this setup also works with an AirPort Extreme G (one of the later UFO-style base stations) connected to the modem, and with an AirPort Express N connected to the G&#8217;s LAN port.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 02:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I set everything up and it works great...but only one problem...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I want my Airport Express G to act as an access point for my DirecTV and you can&#039;t do this while setting up the Airport G Base under Bridge mode since it doesn&#039;t allow internet sharing when in this mode.  Dooooooh.  The express won&#039;t connect using WDS, or am I doing something wrong?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I set everything up and it works great&#8230;but only one problem&#8230;</p>

<p>I want my Airport Express G to act as an access point for my DirecTV and you can&#8217;t do this while setting up the Airport G Base under Bridge mode since it doesn&#8217;t allow internet sharing when in this mode.  Dooooooh.  The express won&#8217;t connect using WDS, or am I doing something wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: Vuong Pham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vuong Pham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting posting.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I tried to do the same.. 
physically isolating the devices based on connection speed: 5 Ghz (802.11 n) + 2.4 Ghz (802.11 g) + 100 mbp and gigabit.  Sadly the AEBS gigabit model doesn&#039;t support jumbo packets for its gigabit switch.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cablemodem ----&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Open Source router with 4 port switch (using Tomato firmware instead of DD-WRT) --&gt; AEBS  (connected into the lan port of each switch)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;open source router has WAN connector to Cable modem&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DHCP is running on the Tomato router ( a buffalo airstation)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;address space is 192.1.1.x&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;tomato router is 192.168.1.1
AEBS router (working as a switch with wifi Acess Point) in bridge mode: 192.168.1.2
submask 255.255.255.0&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I now have isolated browsing from my hacked iphone (802.11( 54 )g speeds),  Macbook connected and running 802.11 n speeds, my DNS-323 NAS &amp; PowerMac G5 on gigabit.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I can transfer 1.49 Gigabyte file between DNS-323 NAS and PowerMac G5 in about 5 minutes. 
Pretty darn fast.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I wanted to put a gigabit switch that supports jumbo frames off of the AEBS switch ports,  but couldn&#039;t. 
I haven&#039;t figured out if it is the PowerMac g5 , DNS323 or switch causing me grief.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;oh well..  time to test it out.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The network has two distinct wifi SSID (g and n networks)
but I use the same wpa2 key for admin ease.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Port forwarding is on, the Tomato router.  Since I have ftp service on the DNS-323, and bt  client.
I also have ssh ports for each client on for the tomato router, PowerMac G5, and DNS-323&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have a diagram but can&#039;t post it here.. no email to send you the file. 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/81285046@N00/3295450573/&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting posting.</p>

<p>I tried to do the same.. 
physically isolating the devices based on connection speed: 5 Ghz (802.11 n) + 2.4 Ghz (802.11 g) + 100 mbp and gigabit.  Sadly the AEBS gigabit model doesn&#8217;t support jumbo packets for its gigabit switch.</p>

<p>Cablemodem &#8212;&#8212;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Open Source router with 4 port switch (using Tomato firmware instead of DD-WRT) &#8212;&gt; AEBS  (connected into the lan port of each switch)</p>

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<li>open source router has WAN connector to Cable modem</li>
<li>DHCP is running on the Tomato router ( a buffalo airstation)</li>
<li>address space is 192.1.1.x</li>
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<p>tomato router is 192.168.1.1
AEBS router (working as a switch with wifi Acess Point) in bridge mode: 192.168.1.2
submask 255.255.255.0</p>

<p>I now have isolated browsing from my hacked iphone (802.11( 54 )g speeds),  Macbook connected and running 802.11 n speeds, my DNS-323 NAS &amp; PowerMac G5 on gigabit.</p>

<p>I can transfer 1.49 Gigabyte file between DNS-323 NAS and PowerMac G5 in about 5 minutes. 
Pretty darn fast.</p>

<p>I wanted to put a gigabit switch that supports jumbo frames off of the AEBS switch ports,  but couldn&#8217;t. 
I haven&#8217;t figured out if it is the PowerMac g5 , DNS323 or switch causing me grief.</p>

<p>oh well..  time to test it out.</p>

<p>The network has two distinct wifi SSID (g and n networks)
but I use the same wpa2 key for admin ease.</p>

<p>Port forwarding is on, the Tomato router.  Since I have ftp service on the DNS-323, and bt  client.
I also have ssh ports for each client on for the tomato router, PowerMac G5, and DNS-323</p>

<p>I have a diagram but can&#8217;t post it here.. no email to send you the file. 
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/81285046@N00/3295450573/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/81285046@N00/3295450573/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Heli Soto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heli Soto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Excellent post.  Thank you.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve been trying to do the same thing in my house in order to separate my (n) macs from my iPhone (which was making the whole network slower).  I never realized that the &quot;bridge&quot; is not the Airport Extreme (n network), but the last router on the chain.
Mine happens to be a Dynex (b/g) router.  I went back to that router, set it to &quot;bridge mode&quot; and it all started working fine.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I did notice that it had the same name as my main (n) network.  That did not appear to cause problems, but I changed it to something else, just to make sure.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Anyway... Thanks a lot for taking the time to share this!!!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post.  Thank you.</p>

<p>I&#8217;ve been trying to do the same thing in my house in order to separate my (n) macs from my iPhone (which was making the whole network slower).  I never realized that the &#8220;bridge&#8221; is not the Airport Extreme (n network), but the last router on the chain.
Mine happens to be a Dynex (b/g) router.  I went back to that router, set it to &#8220;bridge mode&#8221; and it all started working fine.</p>

<p>I did notice that it had the same name as my main (n) network.  That did not appear to cause problems, but I changed it to something else, just to make sure.</p>

<p>Anyway&#8230; Thanks a lot for taking the time to share this!!!</p>
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		<title>By: spaceMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>spaceMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 14:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What a great article - thanks 
Minor update to the DANUAU link to apple manual has changed. It&#039;s now:
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/Designing_AirPort_Networks_10.5-Windows.pdf&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great article - thanks 
Minor update to the DANUAU link to apple manual has changed. It&#8217;s now:
<a href="http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/Designing_AirPort_Networks_10.5-Windows.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/Designing_AirPort_Networks_10.5-Windows.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: yogy</title>
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		<dc:creator>yogy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sweeeeet Post!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweeeeet Post!</p>
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		<title>By: TJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@yachts99 &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m 99% sure that you connect the Extreme-G&#039;s WAN port to one of the Extreme-N&#039;s LAN ports.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@yachts99 </p>

<p>I&#8217;m 99% sure that you connect the Extreme-G&#8217;s WAN port to one of the Extreme-N&#8217;s LAN ports.</p>
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		<title>By: yachts99</title>
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		<dc:creator>yachts99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Which port do you use on the Extreme-G, WAN or LAN? As in the Extreme-N connects to which port on the Extreme-G? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s not clear from the Apple illustration but within the same article (under &quot;Setting up Roaming&quot;) it says to connect to the LAN port on the second and subsequent Extreme(s).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which port do you use on the Extreme-G, WAN or LAN? As in the Extreme-N connects to which port on the Extreme-G? </p>

<p>It&#8217;s not clear from the Apple illustration but within the same article (under &#8220;Setting up Roaming&#8221;) it says to connect to the LAN port on the second and subsequent Extreme(s).</p>
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		<title>By: macguyincali</title>
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		<dc:creator>macguyincali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 03:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great write up.  I have a similar set up, but my 2nd router, is also an Extreme N (just not Gigabit).  The main router is a Gigabit Extreme N but all the LAN Ethernet ports are full.  Is there a way to set this up so that the second router (your Extreme G, my N) can connect via Wireless to the main router instead of via Ethernet?  Also, there doesn&#039;t seem to be a way to create a B/G only network on the second Extreme N.  Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;-JP&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great write up.  I have a similar set up, but my 2nd router, is also an Extreme N (just not Gigabit).  The main router is a Gigabit Extreme N but all the LAN Ethernet ports are full.  Is there a way to set this up so that the second router (your Extreme G, my N) can connect via Wireless to the main router instead of via Ethernet?  Also, there doesn&#8217;t seem to be a way to create a B/G only network on the second Extreme N.  Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.</p>

<p>-JP</p>
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