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	<title>Comments on: Opera 8.02 with Bittorrent</title>
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		<title>By: Eric Blade</title>
		<link>http://tntluoma.com/news/opera-802-with-bittorrent/comment-page-1/#comment-396</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Blade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 02:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And of course now there&#039;s 8.50, which also does not have bittorrent. :)  but that&#039;s ok, I think.  I do have a couple of torrents still in the transfer window from 8.10, and clicking &quot;Resume&quot; on them does nothing, but they have the indicators that they are torrents.  So, it&#039;s not something that&#039;s going away.  (I found that as much as I ignored the two lines of google ads for the last year or so, having them NOT on the screen is so much of a joy I don&#039;t need torrent support...)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And of course now there&#8217;s 8.50, which also does not have bittorrent. :)  but that&#8217;s ok, I think.  I do have a couple of torrents still in the transfer window from 8.10, and clicking &#8220;Resume&#8221; on them does nothing, but they have the indicators that they are torrents.  So, it&#8217;s not something that&#8217;s going away.  (I found that as much as I ignored the two lines of google ads for the last year or so, having them NOT on the screen is so much of a joy I don&#8217;t need torrent support&#8230;)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: TjL (tntluoma.com)</title>
		<link>http://tntluoma.com/news/opera-802-with-bittorrent/comment-page-1/#comment-395</link>
		<dc:creator>TjL (tntluoma.com)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2005 15:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Two further notes:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All changelogs can be found here:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opera.com/docs/changelogs/index.dml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opera.com/docs/changelogs/index.dml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.opera.com/docs/changelogs/index.dml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;8.02 &quot;Final&quot; did not include BitTorrent (it was mostly a security update) but 8.10 Preview does &lt;a href=&quot;http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/w810p2.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/w810p2.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/w810p2.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two further notes:</p>

<p>All changelogs can be found here:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.opera.com/docs/changelogs/index.dml" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.opera.com/docs/changelogs/index.dml" rel="nofollow">http://www.opera.com/docs/changelogs/index.dml</a></p>

<p>8.02 &#8220;Final&#8221; did not include BitTorrent (it was mostly a security update) but 8.10 Preview does <a href="http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/w810p2.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/w810p2.html" rel="nofollow">http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/w810p2.html</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jerry Tobias</title>
		<link>http://tntluoma.com/news/opera-802-with-bittorrent/comment-page-1/#comment-394</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Tobias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2005 13:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Can someone please tell me what Opera 8.02 adds to the previous version? I could not find what this upgrade does.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I wish the Opera site would explain what the upgrade accomplishes.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;{{TjL writes: Jerry, they do, although it isn&#039;t always easy to find if you use Opera&#039;s website search.  If you search your favorite search engine for &quot;opera 8.02 changelog&quot; you will find what you are looking for.  In this case it can be found here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opera.com/windows/changelogs/802/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opera.com/windows/changelogs/802/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.opera.com/windows/changelogs/802/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.}}&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone please tell me what Opera 8.02 adds to the previous version? I could not find what this upgrade does.</p>

<p>I wish the Opera site would explain what the upgrade accomplishes.</p>

<p>{{TjL writes: Jerry, they do, although it isn&#8217;t always easy to find if you use Opera&#8217;s website search.  If you search your favorite search engine for &#8220;opera 8.02 changelog&#8221; you will find what you are looking for.  In this case it can be found here: <a href="http://www.opera.com/windows/changelogs/802/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.opera.com/windows/changelogs/802/" rel="nofollow">http://www.opera.com/windows/changelogs/802/</a>.}}</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: pEeDy</title>
		<link>http://tntluoma.com/news/opera-802-with-bittorrent/comment-page-1/#comment-393</link>
		<dc:creator>pEeDy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2005 20:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Martin:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You can actually do this in Opera. When you click the ed2k link it&#039;ll just open eDonkey/eMule/whatever for you!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You just need to do this: Go to Preferences, Advanced, Programs and click Add. Then type in &#039;ed2k&#039;, choose your application and click OK! It&#039;s as simple as that :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Martin:</p>

<p>You can actually do this in Opera. When you click the ed2k link it&#8217;ll just open eDonkey/eMule/whatever for you!</p>

<p>You just need to do this: Go to Preferences, Advanced, Programs and click Add. Then type in &#8216;ed2k&#8217;, choose your application and click OK! It&#8217;s as simple as that :)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Open edonkey links with opera will be great too&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Open edonkey links with opera will be great too</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Andrew D</title>
		<link>http://tntluoma.com/news/opera-802-with-bittorrent/comment-page-1/#comment-391</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 15:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My understanding of the difference between a beta and a technology preview is this;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A beta is a near or fully feature complete version of a product that is just in testing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A technology preview is a non-feature complete version created specifically to... preview a technology. Hence this version has Bittorrent downloading built in but no UI for it (by way of example/illustration).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The technology is there but the implementation isn&#039;t complete.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My understanding of the difference between a beta and a technology preview is this;</p>

<p>A beta is a near or fully feature complete version of a product that is just in testing.</p>

<p>A technology preview is a non-feature complete version created specifically to&#8230; preview a technology. Hence this version has Bittorrent downloading built in but no UI for it (by way of example/illustration).</p>

<p>The technology is there but the implementation isn&#8217;t complete.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: TjL (tntluoma.com)</title>
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		<dc:creator>TjL (tntluoma.com)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Iain&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Simply put, &quot;Technology Previews&quot; tend to be near-beta quality/stability, but may introduce a new feature (such as Bittorrent) which is meant to be tested only by more hard-core, geekier, bleeding edge folks.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;IMO this has happened because the meaning of &quot;beta&quot; has been greatly diluted in recent years to mean &quot;Almost the same as a release version.&quot;  I mean, GMail has been in beta for how long?  How long was Firefox &quot;beta&quot;?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I always always always recommend a clean install fot TPs (i.e. do not install a TP over your current installation).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I actually recommend that for every release, but I think it is much more important for TPs than for others.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iain</p>

<p>Simply put, &#8220;Technology Previews&#8221; tend to be near-beta quality/stability, but may introduce a new feature (such as Bittorrent) which is meant to be tested only by more hard-core, geekier, bleeding edge folks.</p>

<p>IMO this has happened because the meaning of &#8220;beta&#8221; has been greatly diluted in recent years to mean &#8220;Almost the same as a release version.&#8221;  I mean, GMail has been in beta for how long?  How long was Firefox &#8220;beta&#8221;?</p>

<p>I always always always recommend a clean install fot TPs (i.e. do not install a TP over your current installation).</p>

<p>I actually recommend that for every release, but I think it is much more important for TPs than for others.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Iain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Can someone explain to a non-computer scientist what the difference is between a &#039;Technology Preview&#039; and a beta version? Is TP just a fancier way of saying &#039;here is a beta of Opera 8.02&#039;?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone explain to a non-computer scientist what the difference is between a &#8216;Technology Preview&#8217; and a beta version? Is TP just a fancier way of saying &#8216;here is a beta of Opera 8.02&#8217;?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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