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		<title>By: zzo38</title>
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		<dc:creator>zzo38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 05:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;(1) Opera no longer has ads, as far as I know. And Firefox, Safari, and Opera, all of them use up too much space for toolbars and stuff like that. Vonkeror does not use up too much space for those things. Same on Conkeror. And nearly any web-browser if running in full-screen mode (but things are missing if you do that).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(2) Now most browsers can find as you type, it is more common now than it was in the past.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(3) Page magnification can now be done in most browsers, including Firefox 3, MSIE, Vonkeror, Netscape, etc.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(4) I can see &quot;https&quot; if it is a secure site.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(5) Maybe only Safari has this. But in most Mozilla based browsers you can tell it to open in same window anyways, even if the target is for a new window (and you can use middle-click to open in new tab anyways)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(6) Opera can now do this by typing &quot;g &quot; in address bar (I think). Some browsers do it automatically (I think Google Chrome does it without typing anything extra), Vonkeror does it by webjumps.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(7) I think Firefox has a extension for this. I will code a simliar things in Vonkeror also.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(8) This isn&#039;t a important feature for me to save everything in one file. You can of course archive it (in .zip or .tar file) if you wanted something like that,  but I don&#039;t think it is necessary, just doing it manually is good enough for me.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(9) So that&#039;s one thing in Safari, I think this isn&#039;t important.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(10) This could go with auto-fill of forms, if it is combined with it&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(11) Doesn&#039;t the new version of MSIE have something like this? I&#039;m not sure&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(12) Firefox now has more print options also.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(13) That&#039;s true, Opera uses less memory than other ones, possibly except for things like Lynx which are text-only browser&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(14) I think Free Software is important, but if some software isn&#039;t like that, that is OK too, as long as some software (such as Mozilla and Vonkeror) is FOSS (Free/Open-Source Software), it is good.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(15) For sure any browser can have room for improvement. But if it is FOSS then it can be improved more, by many people!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(1) Opera no longer has ads, as far as I know. And Firefox, Safari, and Opera, all of them use up too much space for toolbars and stuff like that. Vonkeror does not use up too much space for those things. Same on Conkeror. And nearly any web-browser if running in full-screen mode (but things are missing if you do that).</p>

<p>(2) Now most browsers can find as you type, it is more common now than it was in the past.</p>

<p>(3) Page magnification can now be done in most browsers, including Firefox 3, MSIE, Vonkeror, Netscape, etc.</p>

<p>(4) I can see &#8220;https&#8221; if it is a secure site.</p>

<p>(5) Maybe only Safari has this. But in most Mozilla based browsers you can tell it to open in same window anyways, even if the target is for a new window (and you can use middle-click to open in new tab anyways)</p>

<p>(6) Opera can now do this by typing &#8220;g &#8221; in address bar (I think). Some browsers do it automatically (I think Google Chrome does it without typing anything extra), Vonkeror does it by webjumps.</p>

<p>(7) I think Firefox has a extension for this. I will code a simliar things in Vonkeror also.</p>

<p>(8) This isn&#8217;t a important feature for me to save everything in one file. You can of course archive it (in .zip or .tar file) if you wanted something like that,  but I don&#8217;t think it is necessary, just doing it manually is good enough for me.</p>

<p>(9) So that&#8217;s one thing in Safari, I think this isn&#8217;t important.</p>

<p>(10) This could go with auto-fill of forms, if it is combined with it</p>

<p>(11) Doesn&#8217;t the new version of MSIE have something like this? I&#8217;m not sure</p>

<p>(12) Firefox now has more print options also.</p>

<p>(13) That&#8217;s true, Opera uses less memory than other ones, possibly except for things like Lynx which are text-only browser</p>

<p>(14) I think Free Software is important, but if some software isn&#8217;t like that, that is OK too, as long as some software (such as Mozilla and Vonkeror) is FOSS (Free/Open-Source Software), it is good.</p>

<p>(15) For sure any browser can have room for improvement. But if it is FOSS then it can be improved more, by many people!</p>
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		<title>By: TjL</title>
		<link>http://tntluoma.com/reviews/opera-and-building-a-better-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-295</link>
		<dc:creator>TjL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 04:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;milki: I don&#039;t offer email support.  If you have a question you can post it here and come back here to read it.  This is a free website.  If you want more, try &lt;a href=&quot;http://list.opera.com/mailman/listinfo/opera-users&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;opera-users&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://my.opera.com/community/forums/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://my.opera.com/community/forums/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you want more information about how to customize searches in Opera, see &lt;a href=&quot;http://operalover.tntluoma.com/8/day_20_searchini&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://operalover.tntluoma.com/8/day_20_searchini&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://operalover.tntluoma.com/8/day&lt;em&gt;20&lt;/em&gt;searchini&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>milki: I don&#8217;t offer email support.  If you have a question you can post it here and come back here to read it.  This is a free website.  If you want more, try <a href="http://list.opera.com/mailman/listinfo/opera-users" rel="nofollow">opera-users</a> or <a></a><a href="http://my.opera.com/community/forums/" rel="nofollow">http://my.opera.com/community/forums/</a></p>

<p>If you want more information about how to customize searches in Opera, see <a href="http://operalover.tntluoma.com/8/day_20_searchini" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://operalover.tntluoma.com/8/day_20_searchini" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://operalover.tntluoma.com/8/day" rel="nofollow">http://operalover.tntluoma.com/8/day</a><em>20</em>searchini.</p>
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		<title>By: milki</title>
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		<dc:creator>milki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 02:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i need this&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;6) Firefox&#039;s built-in Web searching: This browser&#039;s search bar allows you to start a search at Google -- or at any other site listed in its drop-down menu. Adding additional search sites is simple (for example, I&#039;ve added one for the Internet Movie Database), although deleting them takes more work than necessary. Also, the address bar doubles as a shortcut to an &quot;I&#039;m feeling lucky&quot; Google search -- type a phrase, and you&#039;ll be taken to the site Google thinks is the best match.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Opera has had this for ages... except that it isn’t simple to add them. You can do it, just not through the user-interface. Again, partial credit.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;can e-mail me on how opera&#039;s address bar can be added to function like firefox&#039;s,  i mean generating a i&#039;m feeling lucky google query instead of www and com&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;email me at cricketmilki@yahoo.com&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i need this</p>

<p>6) Firefox&#8217;s built-in Web searching: This browser&#8217;s search bar allows you to start a search at Google &#8212; or at any other site listed in its drop-down menu. Adding additional search sites is simple (for example, I&#8217;ve added one for the Internet Movie Database), although deleting them takes more work than necessary. Also, the address bar doubles as a shortcut to an &#8220;I&#8217;m feeling lucky&#8221; Google search &#8212; type a phrase, and you&#8217;ll be taken to the site Google thinks is the best match.</p>

<p>Opera has had this for ages&#8230; except that it isn’t simple to add them. You can do it, just not through the user-interface. Again, partial credit.</p>

<p>can e-mail me on how opera&#8217;s address bar can be added to function like firefox&#8217;s,  i mean generating a i&#8217;m feeling lucky google query instead of www and com</p>

<p>email me at <a href="mailto:cricketmilki@yahoo.com">cricketmilki@yahoo.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Piotr Konieczny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Piotr Konieczny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2005 20:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There is really fancy tool (OpSed) to improve adding any search sites to built-in toolbar search. (Works with dictionares, web-searches or whatever what uses GET/POST method to send information to server)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You don&#039;t have to mannualy edit any .ini file. Moreover, you simply can have completly no idea how it works, the software has so userfriendly interface and many helpful creators.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately, it&#039;s only for Windows :(&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Please take a look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://starzaki.eu.org/~hclan/operapl/en/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://starzaki.eu.org/~hclan/operapl/en/index.html&lt;/a&gt; -- there you&#039;ll find an English version of Opera Search INI Editor homepage.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is really fancy tool (OpSed) to improve adding any search sites to built-in toolbar search. (Works with dictionares, web-searches or whatever what uses GET/POST method to send information to server)</p>

<p>You don&#8217;t have to mannualy edit any .ini file. Moreover, you simply can have completly no idea how it works, the software has so userfriendly interface and many helpful creators.</p>

<p>Unfortunately, it&#8217;s only for Windows :(</p>

<p>Please take a look at <a href="http://starzaki.eu.org/~hclan/operapl/en/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://starzaki.eu.org/~hclan/operapl/en/index.html</a> &#8212; there you&#8217;ll find an English version of Opera Search INI Editor homepage.</p>
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		<title>By: skemp</title>
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		<dc:creator>skemp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2005 05:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i have a question that should be easy enough for you to answer..  when i hover over a picture using opera 7.11 if it contains a link a little yellow window with the links address and title appears and keeps blocking the picture. how do i turn this option off?   thanks for helping and have a great day&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;{{TjL writes: I no longer have 7.11 installed [why haven&#039;t you upgraded?] but you want to find something called &quot;Enable Tooltips&quot; and uncheck that.}}&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have a question that should be easy enough for you to answer..  when i hover over a picture using opera 7.11 if it contains a link a little yellow window with the links address and title appears and keeps blocking the picture. how do i turn this option off?   thanks for helping and have a great day</p>

<p>{{TjL writes: I no longer have 7.11 installed [why haven&#8217;t you upgraded?] but you want to find something called &#8220;Enable Tooltips&#8221; and uncheck that.}}</p>
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		<title>By: kirin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2005 21:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mattias J: You can just right-click the link and choose &quot;Bookmark Link&quot;. Or, if you keep your panels bar open, you can just drag the link to the bookmarks.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mattias J: You can just right-click the link and choose &#8220;Bookmark Link&#8221;. Or, if you keep your panels bar open, you can just drag the link to the bookmarks.</p>
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		<title>By: Mattias J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mattias J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2005 18:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;TjL:  Being able to save on the desktop isn&#039;t very useful to me&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Context menu (i.e. right click) &quot;Save target as&quot; saves the target page, not the link, which I want to find the page again and look for updates.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;See here for forum thread (server was unreachable on last post): &lt;a href=&quot;http://my.opera.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=89307&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://my.opera.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=89307&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TjL:  Being able to save on the desktop isn&#8217;t very useful to me</p>

<p>Context menu (i.e. right click) &#8220;Save target as&#8221; saves the target page, not the link, which I want to find the page again and look for updates.</p>

<p>See here for forum thread (server was unreachable on last post): <a href="http://my.opera.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=89307" rel="nofollow">http://my.opera.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=89307</a></p>
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		<title>By: TjL (tntluoma.com)</title>
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		<dc:creator>TjL (tntluoma.com)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2005 18:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Opera can drag-save the current page by clicking on the icon on the Addressbar and dragging it to your desktop.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For links on a loaded page, right click -&gt; save as is too much trouble?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opera can drag-save the current page by clicking on the icon on the Addressbar and dragging it to your desktop.</p>

<p>For links on a loaded page, right click -> save as is too much trouble?</p>
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		<title>By: Mattias J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mattias J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2005 09:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The only feature that keeps me from permanently switchin from IE to Opera is drag and drop link saving. (Firefox also has this)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only feature that keeps me from permanently switchin from IE to Opera is drag and drop link saving. (Firefox also has this)</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m surprised you haven&#039;t mentioned the original review that Rob did of Opera8. It&#039;s not as bad as the CNET one you rightly castigated, but still contains some oddities.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Opera also forces every link to open inside the same window, which isn&#039;t such a hot idea.&quot; Really! Why not?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Opera also can&#039;t show Portable Document Format (PDF) files inline unless you copy a support file from the Adobe Reader directory to Opera&#039;s own, a thoroughly lame workaround.&quot; So Opera should check whether Reader is installed and copy over the file itself? Do any other browers do so when first installed on a system that already has Reader installed, or is it Opera&#039;s fault that Adobe doesn&#039;t check for it?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Should you like Opera enough to make it your default browser, Opera can make that harder than necessary. Although this browser happily took over the job of opening Web links on two Windows XP systems, it twice failed to move itself into the spot on the Start Menu reserved for the default browser.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That&#039;s a sign of a sloppy programming job. So is the way Opera didn&#039;t appear as an available Web and e-mail program in the Set Program Access and Defaults control panel.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Next he&#039;ll be complaining that &#039;Send to Mail Recepient&#039; doesn&#039;t work with Opera, because we all know MS makes it so easy to switch browsers.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Occasionally he makes some interesting points, but it does seem like he&#039;s not bothered to find out why certain things don&#039;t work as he expects.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised you haven&#8217;t mentioned the original review that Rob did of Opera8. It&#8217;s not as bad as the CNET one you rightly castigated, but still contains some oddities.</p>

<p>&#8220;Opera also forces every link to open inside the same window, which isn&#8217;t such a hot idea.&#8221; Really! Why not?</p>

<p>&#8220;Opera also can&#8217;t show Portable Document Format (PDF) files inline unless you copy a support file from the Adobe Reader directory to Opera&#8217;s own, a thoroughly lame workaround.&#8221; So Opera should check whether Reader is installed and copy over the file itself? Do any other browers do so when first installed on a system that already has Reader installed, or is it Opera&#8217;s fault that Adobe doesn&#8217;t check for it?</p>

<p>&#8220;Should you like Opera enough to make it your default browser, Opera can make that harder than necessary. Although this browser happily took over the job of opening Web links on two Windows XP systems, it twice failed to move itself into the spot on the Start Menu reserved for the default browser.</p>

<p>That&#8217;s a sign of a sloppy programming job. So is the way Opera didn&#8217;t appear as an available Web and e-mail program in the Set Program Access and Defaults control panel.&#8221;</p>

<p>Next he&#8217;ll be complaining that &#8216;Send to Mail Recepient&#8217; doesn&#8217;t work with Opera, because we all know MS makes it so easy to switch browsers.</p>

<p>Occasionally he makes some interesting points, but it does seem like he&#8217;s not bothered to find out why certain things don&#8217;t work as he expects.</p>
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