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		<title>By: kirin</title>
		<link>http://tntluoma.com/reviews/review-of-cnet/comment-page-1/#comment-270</link>
		<dc:creator>kirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2005 21:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Another paid browser: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.icab.de&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.icab.de&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And another: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.irider.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.irider.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Could someone explain me one thing?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I paid for my house, my car, my clothes, my computer, my food. I never saw any open source bread. So why shouldn&#039;t I pay for my software?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s great that there are free alternatives, and Firefox is a good one, but does that mean that all must be like that? Don&#039;t software developers deserve to get paid? Isn&#039;t that a real job?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am a computer engineer. Should I make my work for free from now on? By the way, do all paid-software-haters work for free?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Today, I saw ads in TV, in most Internet sites, in the mail, in e-mail, in billboards, in buses, in the subway, in the paper, in magazines, in the radio.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Wrong world to avoid ads... And is $34 (paid only once) that much to have access to the best browser without ads?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another paid browser: <a href="http://www.icab.de" rel="nofollow">http://www.icab.de</a></p>

<p><br /></p>

<p>And another: <a href="http://www.irider.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.irider.com/</a></p>

<p><br /></p>

<p>Could someone explain me one thing?</p>

<p>I paid for my house, my car, my clothes, my computer, my food. I never saw any open source bread. So why shouldn&#8217;t I pay for my software?</p>

<p><br /></p>

<p>It&#8217;s great that there are free alternatives, and Firefox is a good one, but does that mean that all must be like that? Don&#8217;t software developers deserve to get paid? Isn&#8217;t that a real job?</p>

<p><br /></p>

<p>I am a computer engineer. Should I make my work for free from now on? By the way, do all paid-software-haters work for free?</p>

<p><br /></p>

<p>Today, I saw ads in TV, in most Internet sites, in the mail, in e-mail, in billboards, in buses, in the subway, in the paper, in magazines, in the radio.</p>

<p>Wrong world to avoid ads&#8230; And is $34 (paid only once) that much to have access to the best browser without ads?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: alastress</title>
		<link>http://tntluoma.com/reviews/review-of-cnet/comment-page-1/#comment-269</link>
		<dc:creator>alastress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nice review.  Firefox has a mission and it is doing it well - take the market share out of IE. Great if other people use it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For me, I&#039;ll stick with Opera. Firefox&#039;s plugins are both their strong point and their weakness. Without plugins you have nothing. And you have to be technically &#039;oriented&#039; to do your search of good plugins before you have something usable. But everytime to you install a buggy plugin you are in problems. And sometimes they are not easy to uninstall.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For me, Opera is stable and fast.  Provides 99% of the functionality that I want and is improving all the time. Just give me a Flash Ad Blocker and we get the 100%. :-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice review.  Firefox has a mission and it is doing it well - take the market share out of IE. Great if other people use it.</p>

<p>For me, I&#8217;ll stick with Opera. Firefox&#8217;s plugins are both their strong point and their weakness. Without plugins you have nothing. And you have to be technically &#8216;oriented&#8217; to do your search of good plugins before you have something usable. But everytime to you install a buggy plugin you are in problems. And sometimes they are not easy to uninstall.</p>

<p>For me, Opera is stable and fast.  Provides 99% of the functionality that I want and is improving all the time. Just give me a Flash Ad Blocker and we get the 100%. :-)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: TjL (tntluoma.com)</title>
		<link>http://tntluoma.com/reviews/review-of-cnet/comment-page-1/#comment-268</link>
		<dc:creator>TjL (tntluoma.com)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Tropos - well I suspect that all those who have previous versions of Windows (before XP) and want to use IE7 will be aware that it is not free.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tropos - well I suspect that all those who have previous versions of Windows (before XP) and want to use IE7 will be aware that it is not free.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tropos</title>
		<link>http://tntluoma.com/reviews/review-of-cnet/comment-page-1/#comment-267</link>
		<dc:creator>Tropos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Don&#039;t want to repeat any discussion, but want the following to be said. Anyone knows how much your IE or Safari costs? No, because it comes out of the box, part of your OS. Therefore it is free? ...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Interesting case could have been the WinXP N version which is released in Europe. Unfortunately the EU and Microsoft could not agree on a version without IE. Accordingly to MS because of WU necessities. It would have been very interesting to see what WinXP would have costed without IE included.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t want to repeat any discussion, but want the following to be said. Anyone knows how much your IE or Safari costs? No, because it comes out of the box, part of your OS. Therefore it is free? &#8230;</p>

<p>Interesting case could have been the WinXP N version which is released in Europe. Unfortunately the EU and Microsoft could not agree on a version without IE. Accordingly to MS because of WU necessities. It would have been very interesting to see what WinXP would have costed without IE included.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Richard Grevers</title>
		<link>http://tntluoma.com/reviews/review-of-cnet/comment-page-1/#comment-266</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Grevers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2005 22:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The truth about screen real estate&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m guest-writing an article (Toolbars) for the 30 days series for Tim, and as part of my research I set up clean installs of Firefox 1.04 and Opera 8 (and I&#039;ve never tweaked the interface of my seldom-used copy of IE).  I got out my trusty &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iconico.com/caliper/index.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;screen calipers&lt;/a&gt; and measured.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Lo and behold, the total height of UI of Firefox and Unregistered Opera was identical. Firefox might appear smaller, but what they giveth at the top, they taketh away at the bottom of the screen.  The only thing Firefox displays which Opera doesn&#039;t in this configuration is a status bar.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truth about screen real estate</p>

<p>I&#8217;m guest-writing an article (Toolbars) for the 30 days series for Tim, and as part of my research I set up clean installs of Firefox 1.04 and Opera 8 (and I&#8217;ve never tweaked the interface of my seldom-used copy of IE).  I got out my trusty <a href="http://www.iconico.com/caliper/index.aspx" rel="nofollow">screen calipers</a> and measured.</p>

<p>Lo and behold, the total height of UI of Firefox and Unregistered Opera was identical. Firefox might appear smaller, but what they giveth at the top, they taketh away at the bottom of the screen.  The only thing Firefox displays which Opera doesn&#8217;t in this configuration is a status bar.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Wessonruger</title>
		<link>http://tntluoma.com/reviews/review-of-cnet/comment-page-1/#comment-265</link>
		<dc:creator>Wessonruger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2005 04:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You&#039;re exactly right Robert.  I actually use both FF &amp; Opera, however I prefer to use Opera, since I&#039;ve been an avid Opera loyalist since v3.x.  ...BigGun&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re exactly right Robert.  I actually use both FF &amp; Opera, however I prefer to use Opera, since I&#8217;ve been an avid Opera loyalist since v3.x.  &#8230;BigGun</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://tntluoma.com/reviews/review-of-cnet/comment-page-1/#comment-264</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 18:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Before firefox/firebird/phoenix, I used Opera, and I loved it!  It was much quicker than Mozilla and I loved mouse gestures(I now have an gesture extension for ff)!  Opera users and FF users need to stop fighting.  It&#039;s IE we hate not each other.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before firefox/firebird/phoenix, I used Opera, and I loved it!  It was much quicker than Mozilla and I loved mouse gestures(I now have an gesture extension for ff)!  Opera users and FF users need to stop fighting.  It&#8217;s IE we hate not each other.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Token User</title>
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		<dc:creator>Token User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 16:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Anyone else find it odd that C&#124;Net didn&#039;t pick up on the fact that if you pay the ads disappear, and you get email support, but if you don&#039;t pay you get ads (I have mine set to text ads) ... so he is comparing (and confusing) different distribution models.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone else find it odd that C|Net didn&#8217;t pick up on the fact that if you pay the ads disappear, and you get email support, but if you don&#8217;t pay you get ads (I have mine set to text ads) &#8230; so he is comparing (and confusing) different distribution models.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Wessonruger</title>
		<link>http://tntluoma.com/reviews/review-of-cnet/comment-page-1/#comment-262</link>
		<dc:creator>Wessonruger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 07:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;angelblade wrote:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;With the ads, I have to strip away almost every browser interface element to match the amount of realscreen estate Firefox offers, so yeah, barebones. In Firefox, on the other hand, I can compress just about everything I need into one toolbar, earning myself space without having to sacrifice the buttons and menus I need, so yeah, lean.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Why waste time compressing, stripping and closing!  F11 does the trick with one-push results.  It works in Opera and firefox.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A funny thing also happened.  To verify my test, I had to go and download a fresh copy of Opera so that I could get an unregistered &lt;b&gt;ad-supported default version&lt;/b&gt; for my test.  I then opened up the same web site in each browser (Opera &amp; firefox each in default mode from a fresh installation).  I enabled all of the toolbars available in each browser, and then I hit F11 and wa laa!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Opera&#039;s ad disappeared, and only the web content was visible.  Firefox had &lt;b&gt;almost as much&lt;/b&gt; screen real estate as Opera.  However, the navigation bar was still present, and the scroll elevator was still present along the right side of the screen.

Not a lot of difference in the total amount of &quot;screen real estate&quot;, but chock up another one for Opera.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hang around the forums and Opera Community for a while.  You&#039;ll soon learn that Opera can do just about anything you want.  If it doesn&#039;t, post a question, and your likely to find an eager Opera loyalist ready to fix ya&#039; up, because we love what we do.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>angelblade wrote:</p>

<p><i>With the ads, I have to strip away almost every browser interface element to match the amount of realscreen estate Firefox offers, so yeah, barebones. In Firefox, on the other hand, I can compress just about everything I need into one toolbar, earning myself space without having to sacrifice the buttons and menus I need, so yeah, lean.</i></p>

<p>Why waste time compressing, stripping and closing!  F11 does the trick with one-push results.  It works in Opera and firefox.</p>

<p>A funny thing also happened.  To verify my test, I had to go and download a fresh copy of Opera so that I could get an unregistered <b>ad-supported default version</b> for my test.  I then opened up the same web site in each browser (Opera &amp; firefox each in default mode from a fresh installation).  I enabled all of the toolbars available in each browser, and then I hit F11 and wa laa!</p>

<p>Opera&#8217;s ad disappeared, and only the web content was visible.  Firefox had <b>almost as much</b> screen real estate as Opera.  However, the navigation bar was still present, and the scroll elevator was still present along the right side of the screen.

Not a lot of difference in the total amount of &#8220;screen real estate&#8221;, but chock up another one for Opera.</p>

<p>Hang around the forums and Opera Community for a while.  You&#8217;ll soon learn that Opera can do just about anything you want.  If it doesn&#8217;t, post a question, and your likely to find an eager Opera loyalist ready to fix ya&#8217; up, because we love what we do.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://tntluoma.com/reviews/review-of-cnet/comment-page-1/#comment-261</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2005 11:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I luuuurv both Opera &amp; Firefox. But Opera is robust, fully-loaded but nevertheless ubuerly fast right out of the box. Firefox on the otherhand, with even it&#039;s &quot;bare&quot; first time install, wouldn&#039;t even get par with Opera&#039;s abilities. Then throw in more extensions and you&#039;ll just end bloating it up. Opera gets to be my main browser.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I luuuurv both Opera &amp; Firefox. But Opera is robust, fully-loaded but nevertheless ubuerly fast right out of the box. Firefox on the otherhand, with even it&#8217;s &#8220;bare&#8221; first time install, wouldn&#8217;t even get par with Opera&#8217;s abilities. Then throw in more extensions and you&#8217;ll just end bloating it up. Opera gets to be my main browser.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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