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	<title>Comments on: Reload vs Refresh</title>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
		<link>http://tntluoma.com/tips/reload-vs-refresh/comment-page-1/#comment-524</link>
		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 02:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;is there a way to make this program refresh consistently until a the page changes.  I buy tickets, and I would like to refresh a page on fifa&#039;s world cup ticket shop until a radio button appears when tickets become available.  Once the radio button comes up, it would need to stop refreshing immediately.  Is this possible, or do you have any recomendations?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(TjL writes: I don&#039;t know of a way to have it refresh until it changes.  Neat idea though.)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is there a way to make this program refresh consistently until a the page changes.  I buy tickets, and I would like to refresh a page on fifa&#8217;s world cup ticket shop until a radio button appears when tickets become available.  Once the radio button comes up, it would need to stop refreshing immediately.  Is this possible, or do you have any recomendations?</p>

<p>(TjL writes: I don&#8217;t know of a way to have it refresh until it changes.  Neat idea though.)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: OperaFan.net</title>
		<link>http://tntluoma.com/tips/reload-vs-refresh/comment-page-1/#comment-523</link>
		<dc:creator>OperaFan.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2006 11:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@ David:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Go to Preferences (Alt+P hotkey) - Advanced - History. Set option &quot;Check documents&quot; to &quot;Always&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ David:</p>

<p>Go to Preferences (Alt+P hotkey) - Advanced - History. Set option &#8220;Check documents&#8221; to &#8220;Always&#8221;.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Seba</title>
		<link>http://tntluoma.com/tips/reload-vs-refresh/comment-page-1/#comment-522</link>
		<dc:creator>Seba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi, Iv&#039;e got a question. I work as a software tester at an argentinian company. I use a lot the &quot;reload from cache&quot; option to perform security tests. Eg. I open the source code and erase or modify some validations, then I select &quot;reload from cache&quot; and so I can confirm wheter if the system has a server side validation or no. Now, I need to perform a similar test but I need to use Internet Explorer ¿How can I do it?, because, if i modify the source code, the browser gets the page from the server again.   Thanks a lot (and excuse me for my poor english)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Iv&#8217;e got a question. I work as a software tester at an argentinian company. I use a lot the &#8220;reload from cache&#8221; option to perform security tests. Eg. I open the source code and erase or modify some validations, then I select &#8220;reload from cache&#8221; and so I can confirm wheter if the system has a server side validation or no. Now, I need to perform a similar test but I need to use Internet Explorer ¿How can I do it?, because, if i modify the source code, the browser gets the page from the server again.   Thanks a lot (and excuse me for my poor english)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://tntluoma.com/tips/reload-vs-refresh/comment-page-1/#comment-521</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 04:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m a recent Opera convert (from Firefox, no less), and so far it&#039;s been great, and your series has helped a lot.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However, one thing is bugging me - when I visit pages I&#039;ve previously visited, Opera seems to load the page from the cache, so I have to press F5 to get new content. I&#039;ve noticed this happen on blogs where I know a comment has been made, but the page doesn&#039;t show this. Is there an option to make sure Opera always fetches a new page from the server, rather than loading from the cache?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;((TjL writes: Set Advanced &gt; History &gt; Check documents to a shorter time))&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi;</p>

<p>I&#8217;m a recent Opera convert (from Firefox, no less), and so far it&#8217;s been great, and your series has helped a lot.</p>

<p>However, one thing is bugging me - when I visit pages I&#8217;ve previously visited, Opera seems to load the page from the cache, so I have to press F5 to get new content. I&#8217;ve noticed this happen on blogs where I know a comment has been made, but the page doesn&#8217;t show this. Is there an option to make sure Opera always fetches a new page from the server, rather than loading from the cache?</p>

<p>Thanks.</p>

<p>((TjL writes: Set Advanced > History > Check documents to a shorter time))</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Arioch</title>
		<link>http://tntluoma.com/tips/reload-vs-refresh/comment-page-1/#comment-520</link>
		<dc:creator>Arioch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Pity, they hidden this so far.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d name the action &quot;Redraw page, do not reload&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pity, they hidden this so far.</p>

<p>I&#8217;d name the action &#8220;Redraw page, do not reload&#8221;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rijk van Geijtenbeek</title>
		<link>http://tntluoma.com/tips/reload-vs-refresh/comment-page-1/#comment-519</link>
		<dc:creator>Rijk van Geijtenbeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2005 11:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Chris:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think &#039;Refresh&#039; in Explorer asks the server if the file has been updated, and uses the cache if that is not the case. A hard reload in Explorer retrieves the file from the server directly, regardless.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&#039;Reload from cache&#039; in Opera does not contact the server at all. IE also gives you the source in a plain text editor when using View &gt; Source, but I see no way to make the edits I could do there show in the browser.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris:</p>

<p>I think &#8216;Refresh&#8217; in Explorer asks the server if the file has been updated, and uses the cache if that is not the case. A hard reload in Explorer retrieves the file from the server directly, regardless.</p>

<p>&#8216;Reload from cache&#8217; in Opera does not contact the server at all. IE also gives you the source in a plain text editor when using View > Source, but I see no way to make the edits I could do there show in the browser.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://tntluoma.com/tips/reload-vs-refresh/comment-page-1/#comment-518</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Isn&#039;t the &quot;reload from cache&quot; option the same as the &quot;refresh&quot; (f5) function on Internet Explorer and FireFox. The &quot;reload&quot; function sounds like the &quot;strong refresh&quot; (shift+f5) of IE and FF. I like it better that the hard reload is the default as this is generally my intention when I reload a page, but is it really a completely original idea of Opera&#039;s?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;((TjL writes: I&#039;m not an expert in IE, but I thought that F5 in IE always did a reload, not just a refresh.))&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t the &#8220;reload from cache&#8221; option the same as the &#8220;refresh&#8221; (f5) function on Internet Explorer and FireFox. The &#8220;reload&#8221; function sounds like the &#8220;strong refresh&#8221; (shift+f5) of IE and FF. I like it better that the hard reload is the default as this is generally my intention when I reload a page, but is it really a completely original idea of Opera&#8217;s?</p>

<p>((TjL writes: I&#8217;m not an expert in IE, but I thought that F5 in IE always did a reload, not just a refresh.))</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: TjL (tntluoma.com)</title>
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		<dc:creator>TjL (tntluoma.com)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2005 05:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Weirdgeek13: I have yet to try any of these, but checkout &lt;a href=&quot;http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=98652&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How to make &#039;Reload from cache&#039; more accessible? (my.opera.com)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weirdgeek13: I have yet to try any of these, but checkout <a href="http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=98652" rel="nofollow">How to make &#8216;Reload from cache&#8217; more accessible? (my.opera.com)</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: trollop</title>
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		<dc:creator>trollop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2005 04:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This feature is also very handy when helping someone with a web design query. You can visit their problematic page online, view the source, edit / make changes,  save then reload from the cache to see the results.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s a great feature.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This feature is also very handy when helping someone with a web design query. You can visit their problematic page online, view the source, edit / make changes,  save then reload from the cache to see the results.</p>

<p>It&#8217;s a great feature.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Weirdgeek13</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weirdgeek13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2005 04:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I want a button next to the Reload button that says &quot;Cache&quot; on it... or perhaps have a little arrow on the Reload button that gives you a menu. That&#039;d be nice. It&#039;s a bit hard to remember &quot;Tools &gt; Advanced &gt; Reload from cache&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want a button next to the Reload button that says &#8220;Cache&#8221; on it&#8230; or perhaps have a little arrow on the Reload button that gives you a menu. That&#8217;d be nice. It&#8217;s a bit hard to remember &#8220;Tools > Advanced > Reload from cache&#8221;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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